john: you wann a tax on junk food. >> the carbohydrate product that is in the market. we are gving the consumer is the choice to a choose what they want to consent. john: good food would cost less. degree food would cost more. >> that is totally correct. john: orange juice and apple seized on food? >> well, i don't believe they are. john: more suga than coke and pepsi. >> well, we will cross that bridge when we get here, but i will tell you this much. i like my apples and oranges. john: you also helped get to these calorie counts posted at fast food places. >> that is correct. john: go into mcdonald's. no, this merely calories command that helps people. >> we have monies, they make their choices based on what they see. we have managed now to see a wonderful number of decrease in people suffering from obesity and diabetes. john: decreasing. >> moving in that direction. to mcdonald's and burger king and others are more responsible. john: a real study has been done on this. you can say, it doesn't cost that much to put up a little entellus with a calorie count is. and why